12/23/2023 0 Comments Silentstrike subsonic 223 ammoThe OP has a deadly accurate load already. 223 is cheap as chips to load for so powder saving will not be beneficial, so what else is there guys? The OP says he has load already shooting bug hole groups at 100 yards, this is more then accurate enough for sub 300 yard bunny head shots, so why would he or anyone else want to tinker with that load by reducing its performance, again its like entering a car race with a miss-fire. Its like entering a cycling race or a car race with a flat tyre ! By making "Reduced loads" you are basically reducing you equipment efficiency over the range you are shooting at. When we talk about vermin/hunting etc Its most important that we do it humanely as possible right. Whats with all the reduces load talk guys, i just don't get it at all, what are you trying to achive.? Just as an aside,one of the principle reasons for lead free bullets in California's "Condor corridor"-and on the west high plains,was fragmented lead poisoning from shot prairie dog carcasses,scavenged by the raptors,and passed on to their chicks,with a high chick morality rate.Much improved,since lead controlled(we can be talking about very small lead shrapnel,detectabe by xray,but potentially fatal.there have been some studies of shot whitetail deer consumers with higher lead,not dangerously so,but enough to advise children and pregnant mothers to avoid.ĭead may well be a very conclusive state with some frangible lead bullets,but it's in the food chain.remember we are talking dust like particles,not tooth detectable size 6 shot.but think wetland wildfowling.,and yes,I know we don't have condors. Impact on target varies too-and the lighter fragmenting bullets can mess up meat. Accuracy of course cannot be compromised,the more so at distance. Yes,in the 224s velocity is desireable out to about 300,but then BC takes over,as velocity drops in all,but more rapidly in the initially faster,lighter bullets,and very especially if there is wind-then it's the highBC heavies turn.for which there is no substitute at distance.Gravity is predictable,and distance knowable.wind is neither. I was amazed what a 40gr nozler would do in my 223 ackley it was silly out to 500 yards on a steady day Ive tried it and you get reduced recoil and less noise, very much. Its dangerous to low load some powders but Hodgdon H4895 is safe to do it, you start at 60% of maximum load and work up to the speed you want. I would expect that a 55gr traveling at 1880fps by the time it reaches the target at 200yds won't be quite as destructive either. 223 running a 55gr bullet at HMR speeds of 2550 which you can get from running a reduced load of H4895 will have drift of 6.5" at 200yds whereas your HMR would have drifted 14" drops will be 5.5 versus 8.3 so again its better. You only need the thing dead, in bits is useless for the pot unless your doing a casserlole or stir fry.Ī. How about looking at this a little differently? At 220yds an HMR has enough energy left to kill the rabbit/hare and keep it is a useable condition, the problem is the wind. ![]() 223 I thought I would ask for some advice? 223 is 1 in 12 twist and shoots 55gn bullets clover leaf hole at 100 yards all day long but that weight bullet strikes me as a bit much on rabbit & hare (as i want them in the pot) so I was thinking of taking it down to 35 grain bullet? I need to take longer shots and the HMR is running out of puff and POI is a bit frustrating in the wind. 17hmr Sako Quad and its cracking rifle and very accurate but the permission is very open and catches the wind. 223 round for long range rabbit and hare? Say up to 220 yards. No,keep with the 50g+ bullets-indeed your current 223 load-it will deal with wind at least as well as the lighter/faster numbers,which begin to lose out around 250 anyhow.high BC is the best approach to wind-though you do have to balance effect on bunnies.Since 55g fits the bill,think of a change only if those don't work out.and remember,bullet construction is at least as critical as weight for your use.Not all 55g are equal,either. Some such bullets just disintegrate violently -do you want to have lead fragments in your mince? They might just be prone to more carcass damage,being designed for essentially prairie dogs-about squirrel size, and not eaten. There is a fair chance you would find the ultra light bullets (30/35/even 40 g) are too light- they won't be better in wind-that's a BC issue. 17 was also excellent,but no better terminally. You might try 52g,but why fix it if it's not broke? I found the old soft point 50/52 g excellent in a 222. ![]() ![]() As other replies-you don't need to change-accuracy is what you need,and seem to have,for 250y.
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